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Married People and Single Thoughts 

Married people.  Who needs 'em, Right? When you're not married, they can be the HD TV highlighting the stubbly flaws in your life with crystalline clarity.  I mean what's the deal? Right after my divorce, I felt lost at sea, adrift in an ocean of married couples--the lone divorced Rob flotsam drifting from my ex, Ms. Jane Jetsam.

 

And why is it that flotsam always has to have jetsam?  It's never, "Look flotsam, no Jetsam!" They crash the same parities, they dance naked in the same swimming pools. Flotsam and Jetsam are like the peanut butter and chocolate of water wreckage world.

 

In my wreckage world, that would be MyEx and I. Well except the dancing naked thing. Ok we did that too, but nobody has pictures.

 

"Mommy!  There's a whale convulsing in our pool!"

"No Timmy, that's just our neighbor, Rob, dancing. Go hum the Wedding March' at him.  He'll leave."

 

Yup.  It's true.  Right after the divorce I would have left too, if the neighbors didn't have such a nice pool. It was the only place I could go to get away from the married people, and wallow in my own flotsam.

 

Don't get me wrong.  I love married people. I was one once. But, after divorce, they're the last thing you want to see, and the first thing that all your old friends are. When you're married, you have married friends. When you're divorced…well, you start off with leftovers.

 

"Hey Rob, Why don't Suzy and I come over to cheer you up?"

 

I could think of a hundred reasons.  The primary one for me was that being around happy couples felt like being smothered in a broken glass blanket.  They smothered me with all the love they could, while cutting me with their happiness.  I couldn't take it.

 

Now, it's been over a year since the state agreed to pull Jane's jetsam out of my flotsam. I'm in a different place, emotionally. Physically I'm in the same place, and I'm unemployed. Still, I'm happier. I've moved away from the pain.

 

I guess that's why I'm easier on my married friends. I see now that they were just trying to comfort me. Most of their hang-ups, were actually floating around inside of me.  It was like my first break up in high school.  After she left, every time I turned on the radio, they played our song.

 

A few months later, I tried the radio again. It was then that I noticed that the radio still played the same songs, but they were no longer ours.  In fact, if I listened, they weren't even love songs. At the break-up, Every song was our song, because she'd become an experience magnet.

 

"Back on the Chain Gang!  That was our song!"  Really? If that was the case, then breaking up doesn't seem like a bad thing.

 

The same thing happened after my divorce.  Married people were our people. Married people were our song.  I couldn't be around them. It didn't matter if they were sitting on my couch arguing about who didn't feed the cats before they left, it was still "our song."

 

"OHHH! We used to argue just like that!"

 

Now it's been a while and I've started talking to married people again. They haven't changed. I have. Oh, I'm still not looking at joining their ranks anytime real soon, but I can associate with them. I've been pulled out of the water. I've left my bitter feelings and open wounds, flotsam and jetsam, and moved on.

 

by Robert-Boyd  5134 Posts 

Posted on 8/26/2009 10:46 PM
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Thanks everybody!  I'm glad this touched all of you. Sometimes it's good to know that I'm not alone in my idiosyncracies--and maybe my bad spelling...
by Robert-Boyd   5134 Posts
Posted on 8/30/2009 8:49 PM
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Rob, as always you hit onto something we can all relate to! I am thankful to be past that stage where I felt uncomfortable with married friends. I realize now it had more to do with jealousy on my part than anything they said or did. Except for the attempts to find me someone, I now know their intentions were meant well. I have remained friends with a few married couples and let others go. I think the insight into relationships we gain during our own troubled times gives us an advantage to see what can happen in other relationships. To avoid being the one to point out such things, I stay away from them. If they need me later, I will be there for them, but for now, I am content to mind my own business ; ) I am no longer jealous , or feel like I am labeled. I believe that came with healing and accepting. You hit right on the mark with " they haven't changed, I have" so very true my friend!
by kdb   3175 Posts
Posted on 8/28/2009 11:19 PM
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Great post.   I hate to be around married people.    My married friends don't have a clue as to what to say to me.   No one really understand these things except ones like us.   It is the change we all never thought we would ever see again..........singleness.   Well that's me for sure.
by kevinwo   732 Posts
Posted on 8/28/2009 7:12 PM
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I'm ok now with married people LOL Sounds like we are talking about a controversial issue! 
I know if I would hear Hear comes the bride I would have to pray for the stupid  bi@@h hmmmm need I say more? Tee Hee
I'm not bitter ; )~
by sjg   1766 Posts
Posted on 8/28/2009 6:19 PM
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Yes, I pushed away my married friends too...I could talk to them but couldn't socialize with them...I am ok with that now and feel more like my normal self again..

It was just plain painful for me to watch their interactions...The way one would reach out and touch the other when talking and they never even realized they did it, it was that comfortable for them and natural...I realized it though and I felt the hurt just flowing back in when I would see it...

Now, I think it gives me hope that it works out for them...I don't want to see any of my friends have to go through what I did...I have hope for them..
by militaryp   2950 Posts
Posted on 8/28/2009 6:00 PM
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Thank you for this post.  Until reading this, I really didn't have a clue why I was pushing away my married friends.  I felt so alone but being with them made it a million times worse.
by elizabeth_bowman2000   55 Posts
Posted on 8/28/2009 1:15 PM
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I'm glad you liked, Carossi! It sounds like you can relate.  The good news is that you have friends who care--even if they are that "m" word.  ;) The good news is that after a little while of healing, you will be able to listen to that song again, and you will probably enjoy it.
by Robert-Boyd   5134 Posts
Posted on 8/28/2009 10:19 AM
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I really like ur post!... Just a few days ago, I was crying in a really good friend shoulder... she got married just a few months before that I did, and she had her first baby at the same time I had mine... so it was really hard to see her for the first time...now that Im single again.
but I swear she said ¨hun at leats ur wedding was amazing... and u looked so pretty¨ I try to not punch her lol... I know she was only trying to e ncie but yes... happy married friends feel alooot like ¨thats our sooongggg¨and It sucks...

Anyway it was really nice to read ur post =)
by carossi   141 Posts
Posted on 8/28/2009 12:07 AM
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Well maybe you are weird Dactyl, but I don't think it has anything to do with enjoying singleness.  ;)
No, we all look at things differently, and enjoying singlness isn't a problem continue enjoying yourself!  Good for you!
by Robert-Boyd   5134 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 10:17 PM
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Rob- great post, as always.

I am having a blast being single.  I don't look at my friends who are married enviously.  I'm liking the idea of having my own place, by myself.  I like the idea of dating.  Maybe I'm weird.
by Dactyl   2606 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 10:04 PM
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hmm...sorry didn't mean to double post.
by Robert-Boyd   5134 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 9:18 PM
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And thank you for sharing Flutterby!  Your comments make my posts more insightful.  Don't worry bout the happy thing.  It'll sneak up on you when you least expect it, and you know what? That's what makes it so dang good.  It's not forced, or contrived, it's real, it's now, it's happy.  Have patience my friend and keep posting!
by Robert-Boyd   5134 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 9:17 PM
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And thank you for sharing Flutterby!  Your comments make my posts more insightful.  Don't worry bout the happy thing.  It'll sneak up on you when you least expect it, and you know what? That's what makes it so dang good.  It's not forced, or contrived, it's real, it's now, it's happy.  Have patience my friend and keep posting!
by Robert-Boyd   5134 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 9:12 PM
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Good post as usual.  I love when I see you've added something new!

I'm still at that point where I have difficulty around my married friends.  Nothing to do with them, it's all me.  I miss being part of a couple.  The other thing I've noticed is every single darn man I look at has a wedding ring on!  When did that happen?  *laugh*

I agree 100% with the personal growth comment.  I am learning so much about myself that I've lost sight of these past 22 years.  I look at my stbx and the OW and realize he is going to make the same mistakes over and over again until he gets help.  No longer my problem.  I feel sorry for him though.  Oh well.

 

I am looking forward to the moment when I realize I'm happy again.  I have glimpses but the sadness is still there.  All I ever wanted was to celebrate my 50th wedding anniversary.  I think that was a different generation and it won't happen much more with future generations.  Sad if you think about it.

Well, that's my 2 cents, for what it's worth.  Thanks for sharing!

by flutterby   829 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 5:14 PM
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Thanks all for your replies and comments. It appears this is a subject that many people have feelings about.

Welchel, yeah it did happen.  It's funny how I realized it too.  One summer eveningI was eating grilled salmon and drinking beer. The doors and windows were open and a cool breeze blew through the house. I took a sip, of the beer and realized, OMG! I'm enjoying myself. After that, I settled into my new single state. Some things are OK to do for you, Welchel. Especially personal growth, because that you can't do for anybody else.

That's the thing about friends, Stcheshirecat: the good ones are always there. You sound like the type of person who keeps a few close people you can really call "friends" as opposed to a large group of revolving door aquaintences.  That's me too. Oh, I may have felt the sting of Married friends, but the sting was all me. It's just that sometimes the perspective of a person makes it hard to communicate. Ask any friend who's been married.  ;)  The important thing is that you know the value of a friend. That will take you far in this life.

mma, Cynical? Me? Naw...I'm not sarcastic either.  ;)  Seriously, yeah, I can be cynical. Sometimes it's to make a point, sometimes it's to point out my own flaws. Still, I know the value of a friend, and it's obvious you do too. Married or single, they're the one thing that can pull you through any hardship.  Thanks for your input mma! 

I'm glad you like LIP

I don't think that makes you cynical GEC. Like Meteor, it just shows that you've learned from your own issues and now you have a new sense of perception. 40 or 50? I do too.  I look at my parents and go, wow!  And at the heart of that I feel a sadness for me. Even if I find somebody I love and trust enough to marry again, I'll never see that kind of time together. I'm too old. Yeah, I'm jealous.

What a wonderful post/comment, Bluebird. It's that perception, and ability to enj
by Robert-Boyd   5134 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 1:29 PM
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For a few weeks after he left I had a hard time looking at other couples who all seemed to be happier than I.

It was about a week before I started noticing that their marriages weren't particularly happy. I saw them making similar mistakes or other ones and wanted to scream at them to make it right or get out now.

I like that desperate housewives theme, we all lead lives of quiet desperation.

They have a partner, but are they happy?

I, too, have really appreciated my married friends who have been there for me to help me through this most difficult of times. I don't know what I would have done without them. That said, I don't envy them their marriages.

On the other hand, I have friends who just got married. They are very happy together and it gives me a lot of joy to see them and see the looks they exchange. Love is always a good thing. I may or may not find it again but seeing them together gives me hope.

The other day I was walking by the harbor and saw a group of girls clearly having a bachelorette party. I stopped and offered to take pictures of them so that all of them could be in it together. They were delighted and invited me to join them, which I did for a short time.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I try to find joy in any way I can. I find a lot of joy watching an elderly man care for the dog he so clearly loves. I find joy in watching a happy couple. I find joy in a mother's enjoyment of her children.

Joy is all around. We just have to get out of this deep dark well and find it. Stchesshire threw me a rope the other day. Guess I've used it to climb out of my well.
by bluebird   1157 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 10:42 AM
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Am I getting cynical in my old age? Because I look at married people and I don't see a lot of truly happy ones. Most of them seem to be going through the motions. I honestly think that's why my in-laws were so freaked out when we separated. It made them look at their own marriages.


 I see people who have reached their 40th and 50th anniversaries and wonder how they do it. If they had the choice of doing it all over, would they?
by GreenEyedCat   28 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 10:27 AM
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Excellent, as always.  "....felt like being smothered in a broken glass blanket".   Fantastic analogy, Rob!
by lifeinpurgatory   1830 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 10:11 AM
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Hmm, the post came off a bit cynical.  Personally, as a newly single person, my married friends have only offered support, guidance and continued friendship.  Never have I ever felt out of place or sorts but then my married friends don't act like extensions of each other.  They behave and act independently of the other....so if one comes over, the other doesn't necessarily follow.  I don't know, married or not, they're just my friends.  I don't know what I would do without them.  They keep me sane, grounded and feeling normal.  Life is okay with people like them by my side.

You'll be okay and I hope you work through this tough time.
by mma   35 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 9:44 AM
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It's funny that many of my friends have been single through much of my married life.  I never thought of them as lone flotsam without jetsam.  Some of these same friends are now married and I'm single.  These have been the ones who have been the most supportive and loving. They know single.  They know the pain of a relationship ending, even if now, they are happily married. 

Maybe, it's because I tend to keep my friends for a long, long time.  I may not have a lot of close friends, but most go back decades.  The ones that I've known for a shorter time than that will probably be friends decades into the future. 

The best thing they're doing for me?  Showing me that I am valuable as a person alone is to help me find and appreciate my single self.  That's a gift I'd never envisioned, but with their help, I'm finding it good.
by stCheshirecat   301 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 9:34 AM
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Moving from "former married person" to "content single person" sounds like it happened for you!  Can you imagine the consequences of jumping into another relationship having not gone through the growth that occurred in the several years after the divorce?

For me, the first year was getting over the marriage/divorce.  The second year was really getting comfortable with me...challenging myself in different ways to be a better person, dad, etc.  I was doing it all for me though.
by Welchel   6 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 9:21 AM
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You should Meteor! It might be fun!  ;)  Yeah, I have noticed the "unhappy couples" lately. I don't know if it's because I'm more in tune with the signs or it's more a sign of the times.
by Robert-Boyd   5134 Posts
Posted on 8/27/2009 12:47 AM
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I feel a bit like their pet project when I see some of my happily married friends.  They must be thinking,"Aww...let's make sure she eats a decent meal and has a few laughs before she goes back to her sad life."  Sorry if I sound a little resentful. I call one married couple I know "Mom and Dad" because they are always worrying about me and trying to feed me.  It's even funnier because they are both younger than I am.

     On the flip side, I notice all those unhappy couples out there more now, thanks to my own experiences.  I wince when I hear a man or woman talk down to their significant other in public.  I have a sudden urge to run over to them and say,"Get out while you still can!  Being single has got to be better than putting up with this crap!"  Of course, I never actually say anything to them...
by meteor   488 Posts
Posted on 8/26/2009 10:58 PM
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