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my parents think i need to have sex 

so, i've sort of taken a different route than most post divorce...i didn't date a bunch (or any) men to have revenge sex.  i didn't fret about being alone for the rest of my life.  i didn't panic that i needed to find the next husband to help me and my two kids. 

 

no.  

 

instead,i just sort of shut down.   i got up every morning. took care of the kids. went to work. came home. went to bed.  repeat.  

 

after some time friends and family suggested i get back out there.  i would just stare at them.  how, i would ask, does a full time working, single mother of two little ones, get back out there exactly?   

 

first. i have zero interest in dating or men.

 

second. i have zero time or energy (i'm asleep by 8pm - passed out from exhaustion).

 

third. i can't imagine some man being intrigued by a mini van driving, mother of two, who has piles of laundry stacked up, and possibly some pieces of her kids linty blankie in her hair.

 

fourth. i can't imagine bringing some strange man home to meet my kids. i don't like other peoples kids,why on earth would someone like mine?

 

fifth. i can't imagine taking the few hours i have alone with my kids and opting to spend it out searching for a replacement dad.  

 

anyway, life and time went on.  it's now almost five.  that's one, two, three, four, five years since i've divorced.   i remember reading posts here where some women begged for advice because it had been weeks or months since they last had sex.   i would sort of shrink in my chair a bit when reading those blogs.   years vs weeks makes one ponder.  

 

so, the other day my parents and i were having our usual fight.   see, they are huge helps to me and my kids since the divorce.  they don't help out financially, but they help out in a much better way....they are there, everyday, for my kids. 

 

they help drive them to school or pick them up. they come over for dinner and help with homework.  they wash my kids uniforms (in bleach, which i hate, but what can you do...beggers can't be choosers, right?).  they come to every important kid event, from dances to shows to picnics in school park.   they've befriended all the other moms at my kids school and even hang out with some of them socially (odd, yes, but good, i think.)  they are great.  everyone tells me so.  

 

but.....  

 

they also open my mail and move my paintings around to their liking.   they toss food they don't recognize or believe in, like hummus or pesto.  they are teaching my kids to use phrases like 'shut the light'.   they throw out my toothpaste because they've never heard of the Tom's brand.  they come to my house when i'm not here and make subtle changes...just enough to freak a person out.  they point out what i'm doing wrong, every single day.   when my back is turned, while making dinner, they will alter what i'm making...usually always adding more salt.   the believe ice cream is healthy, because it has milk, and give it to my kids daily.....and then sprinkle sugar on top of it!.   

 

basically, they are to copy a famous line....they are the best of times, they are the worst of times.  

 

i am grateful every single day for their help with my kids.   and i am insane, and angry at them every single day.  

 

it makes for an interesting life.  

 

flash forward to last week.   it's the usual scene. i'm screaming at my parents because they did something totally annoying again, like had me run around the house for an extra fifteen minutes looking for my toothpaste or adding water to my pasta sauce when i turned my back.... 

 

and my father, my father!, my father, mr. modest, says the following to me:  

 

"i get it, you're stressed.  all the other moms at school are stressed too...it was a tough, long summer, and right about now, everyone is cracking."

 

i pause.  

 

i say:

 

"wait, are you comparing me to the stay at home moms you hang with at the kids school park?   you're comparing a two job working, two kid, single mom to married, stay at home moms?"  

 

and then he says: 

 

"well, it's that or.....uhhhhm......well......you know paula, your mother and i are here for you if you ever want to go out for the evening with the opposite sex."  

 

melt down pause.  

 

what????????  

 

so my brain goes into overload as i process that my father just 1. removed his own culpability in what we were discussing and instead turned the focus onto it being my fault somehow....and 2. that he just told me to go out and have sex and all would be better.  

 

can my life get any more surreal and embarrassing?  

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I haven't commented on anyone's blog for months but I just had to comment on yours.
You sound like you are very much into alterative foods and environmental type things.
The actions you describe of your parents are the very same things my husband did to me.
He throws away my organic food. He made fun of my attempted to eat more healthy food. I told him he needed to treat me with respect. 
I had had enough of his disdain and disrespectful attitudes toward me. I left him. I am sure you were tired of
disdain and disrespect from your husband...why put it up with it from your parents.

by soon2bstrong   12 Posts
Posted on 11/11/2009 6:53 PM
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Just take a break from it all, go on a cruise... you live in FL... they are cheap.
Then in time you will feel better. Heck you might even meet someone on the boat!
I wouldn't hold anything against your dad, he just doesn't know how to help you.

Maybe join an on line dating site and have fun with it.

Qoute: i can't imagine some man being intrigued by a mini van driving, mother of two, who has piles of laundry stacked up, and possibly some pieces of her kids linty blankie in her hair.

~~~
Well to be honest, to some like me, thats a turn on! lol silly as it seems.
by cmmtech   8 Posts
Posted on 11/11/2009 4:11 AM
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Gosh, what an adventure.  Sorry for all the difficult things you are having to endure.  I wish you and all your family well, many blessings to you all.
by Betrayedforaram   451 Posts
Posted on 11/10/2009 10:01 PM
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First, I totally agree with everyone about one point - hon, you need do give yourself a well-deserved and clearly long overdue break.  Self care under your circumstances is of the utmost importance.  If you can't think of it in terms of it being good for you, think of what you model to your kids by NOT being good to yourself along the way.That said, Spaz, I LOVED the story of how you went to your in-laws and switched around some of their stuff.  Classic!!Now, I don't recommend that for you, Paula.  I think it is a nice giggle, and maybe something to dream about.  Unfortunately, parents are often well meaning but have serious boundary issues.  I like the suggestions about finding a place to put the things you want to keep but they throw out, like the toothpaste.  You might also want to consider figuring out a way for your parents to put things that they don't like or want you to have in one specific location (without throwing them away) so that you can make your own choices about them later when they are not around.  I don't know whether they would be open to this.You might also ask them not to be in the kitchen when it it your "turn" to cook.  Telling them in a non-angry moment about how you really feel that they infantalize you by doing some of these things may make it through to them at some point.  If you are kind, but persistent in reminding them.As for dating - I like the idea of you dating yourself.  IF the time ever comes when you feel ready for male attention, then you'll do what you need to find it.  Believe me on this one point - there are PLENTY of men out there who would date a mom with young kids and who drives a mini-van.  And they are not all shlubs, either.  You also don't need to involve the kids too quickly (I believe many people think it is a mistake to involve kids too soon).
by abrenner   60 Posts
Posted on 11/10/2009 10:01 AM
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Hi Paula -

I had to laugh when I read your blog. 

You haven't been practicing self care...  (wagging finger...) Naughty Paula!!  

You need to do exactly what you would tell the rest of us...  take some time for yourself.  

Just because you aren't interested in dating doesn't mean that you can't go out of an evening and have some fun with your girlfriends.  Go to a show...  have a quick burger at Five Guys and see a movie...  go bowling and laugh at yourself a little...  go to a comedy club...  go to a male strip club  (bring lots of singles - LOL!).

I know I'm making a big assumption here...  you DO have some girlfriends, right? LMAO!  After all the emails get answered... I am sure you do.    

My folks can be boundary-less as well.  Trying to live with that kind of stress day in and day out is very hard.  It wears on us like sand paper after a while, just whittling our patience down to nothing.  Spaz had a couple of really great suggestions about the toilet kit and taking the long view. 

My folks moved 2000 miles away when they retired.  I don't get to be aggravated anymore and believe it or not....   I miss it.  Not so much the aggravation, but seeing them often.  Now we see each other when I can get out there or they can come here.  They are getting older and it's harder for them to travel... 

The most important thing for care givers (read Mom's) is to take some time off for self care and fun so we can rejuvinate.  If we don't make that effort, soon we aren't enjoying life anymore...  just existing. 

That isn't living...  and you are worth so much more than just existing. 

Best -
Lisa
by Lisa Cannon   
Posted on 11/10/2009 1:04 AM
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Paula, you've got so many things going on in this story.  I think you'll find that it's a lot more manageable to work on them each separately.

First, the exhaustion.  You're depending on your parents a lot, but is there anyone else you can ask for help?  Good friends, siblings, fellow PTA members or a regular old babysitter?  Just reach out and ask.  It will relieve some of your responsibility and also keep your parents out of your house for a bit.

Second, fighting with the parents.  It's possible their sense of boundaries are just non-existant, and you can't change them.  You can only change you.  I'm writing my second book based on my experience in my divorce mediation practice, and there's one thing that I think will really help you in this situation.  Before you get to your next meltdown, look at the big ten-years-from-now picture, and ask "What's important, and what's urgent?"  What's important might be things like physically healthy kids, a stable loving home, quality time with all of your family members, etc.  What's urgent is how pissed you are about tossing the toothpaste and re-arranging your medicine cabinet.  When you're calm, talk to your parents about your goals for those big important things - I doubt they could disagree with any - and how you're achieving them (limiting their sugar and minimizing screaming fights, for example).  Being clear and constructive in sharing your goals, and listening to theirs, will get you a lot of what you want.  And some things you'll just have to let go because the energy you're devoting to them isn't helping you achieve the big goals.

Third, dating.  Self-care is crucial to managing stress.  If after you lighten up your schedule and work out conflict with your parents, you still feel disinterested and undesirable, you may want to talk to a professional.  You deserve happiness, in whatever form it takes.
by PeaceTalksMediation   3 Posts
Posted on 11/6/2009 10:34 PM
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Ahhh, parents...I briefly had to move back in with my Mom for a few months when I was 24.  I felt like a little kid again.  I insisted on paying rent so I would be a responsible adult in the household, but she still treated me like I was twelve.  I moved out six months later and we got along much better.  I was single at the time, but I remember going on "dates with myself" once a week.  A walk in the park, trip to a coffeeshop, maybe an afternoon movie.  These things helped me to keep my sanity.  Definitely take your parents up on the offer to watch your children so you can have a few hours to yourself to do things you enjoy.  If you do not want to date I think that choice should be respected by others, especially your parents.  But going out to do things with friends, male or female, that do not revolve around your children?  You just might enjoy that.
by meteor   488 Posts
Posted on 11/5/2009 9:26 PM
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Your dad mean well I'm sure.

Don't take this the wrong way, but....

From a guy perspective I'd just say that if sex was all it took to make women happy, the World would be a better place......
by HereIgo   756 Posts
Posted on 11/5/2009 8:54 PM
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Paula, your dad may simply want you to take some time off and go have fun.  I would go book an hour massage and take them up on their offer to watch the kids.  Or have dinner with a girlfriend.  Or go sit in a theatre and watch something not rated G and animated. 

I've dated, but right now I'm with you.  I work two jobs and my mom is at my house watching my kids for the second night in a row.  The good thing about dating isn't sex--it's having adult company, conversation, and fun.  So if you don't want to date, take the time and have fun anyway.
by Iam   476 Posts
Posted on 11/5/2009 8:10 PM
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OMG!  You poor thing!  You do need to get out and have some you time.  You also need to set some serious boundaries with your parents.  A great book to read is Boundaries by Henry Cloud.  Yes, they help you out tremendously.  No, that does not mean they can walk all over you.  I agree that you need to talk to them calmly.  If they still don't listen, you may need to take some seriously drastic meaures to make them listen. 

Good luck in everything!
by Dactyl   2606 Posts
Posted on 11/5/2009 6:47 PM
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Paula,

I am only 10 months from my d date and like you have no interest in members of the opposite sex. I have been "out" and it feels great to shed the weight of being a single mom, homeowner and employee. It seems impossible at times to try to find the time but once you do, you will crave this "me and he" time. The connection or even just the "adult" non parent/sister/brother/aunt/uncle/cousin conversation can be a spirit lifter. My therapist called it food for my soul and my soul was STARVING which left me depressed and I did just enough to get through the day.

Parents...yeah I have then to, without them I would be a puddle on the floor, they are my strength, my backbone at times and I don't know what I would of done without them during this time. They interfere, they don't agree with groundings, they feed them skittles right before dinner, they give them money and tell them "don't tell mom", and on and on and on....it makes me crazy at times but I know I need them and my kids need them. Someday they won't be there so I bite my tongue and enjoy every minute with them (then vent to friends later..lol).

Take care and you do what feels right for YOU!
by eclectic   268 Posts
Posted on 11/5/2009 11:40 AM
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Paula, you are an amazing person for all that you do, for your family and for others - you need to occasionally reward yourself since there is no one in your life special enough to do it for you...and when your kids get older, and get into their own thing and you have more room to breath and fix your hair, then maybe that is when a man might sound appealing.

Until then, occasionally - date yourself.

As far as the toothpaste etc....you know your parent's patterns - until you find a way to get your point about boundaries across - get a toiletry bag and keep your toothpaste and other items you know they raise an eyebrow to in your underwear drawer...put a tube of colgate in the bathroom to appease their sensabilities =) if you know they will thin out your sauce, add a can of italian style tomato paste when they aren't looking so the water ends up having little effect.

You know that old saying, don't sweat the small stuff - and it is all small stuff...

they are old, they are set in their habits and have been for a long long time, and you will always be their child, they will always think they know best and there is going to come a day when they are gone and you are brushing your teeth you will look back and miss having to spend 15 minutes looking for what is ultimately in the garbage can...
by spaznskitz   7745 Posts
Posted on 11/5/2009 10:54 AM
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Paula, in some ways he is right...granted you might not necessarily need to go out and get laid (lol) but you honeslty put out so much for everyone else - good grief woman it's like you lost yourself somewhere, and it is making you lose it.

If you don't want to date, that is your choice, but at the very least...go get some breathing room and ME time. Hit a coffee shop with a good book, take a bike ride, treat yourself to a good haircut to get the blankie lint out! Rent a hotel room and nap! Recoup your sanity in your own way - not how they tell you to - but do it none the less.

My mother in law, for a time, after our 2nd child, was like your parents - would come over and by the time she left I coudn't find a damn thing in my kitchen - or the kids' closets would be redone by color instead of type of garment the way I like them. No amount of "boundary" conversations, even the calm ones, changed her agenda. She felt entitled, it was "in the best interest of her child's children..." yeah, ok whatever...

So I had it - and one day I snuck her house key off of my husband's ring and arranged for the kids to have a play date with g'ma & pa...and I went over to HER house...and in the "best interest of my sanity" rearranged each and every room. Some subtle changes - some big, like every pot & pan was in the upstairs bathtub & her canned goods now resided in her walk in closet...

she got the point.

Now this may not work for you - it was an extreme gesture when I realized I was talking and pleading with a brick wall...but some people learn by saying, and some people learn by showing...depends on what type of people your parents are...

(continued)
by spaznskitz   7745 Posts
Posted on 11/5/2009 10:44 AM
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Oh Paula, I can hear the chaotic frustration and exhaustion in your post.     I offer you a big hug and cup of tea.   Take a breath.  

You didn't include any self care activities in your post.  Just a focus on your kids and a very busy schedule.     I'm wondering if you do anything for yourself outside of the house?   Socially?

A social life that includes the opposite sex does not rest completely on looking for a new husband.   If it did very few of us would ever go out.    I'm talking about interests and activities explored by YOU as an individual that includes other people (of both sexes)  NOT you as a MOM.     

I know its scary and much easier to be consumed with your duties as an employee and breadwinner and as a Mom.   Its easier to fill your day with obligations and love of your kids.    Its even rewarding to do so. Don't stop doing this but rather explore other options too.     A healthy life includes feeding yourself all sorts of stimulation.   

Sooner or later you need to grow as a woman and as person.   Your kids need to see Mommy happy, excited and engaged in a private too.    That too is healthy.   That too can add another layer of satisfaction and happiness to your life.   

So while you don't have to go out and look for a husband, you do have to consider what starving that side of your life will eventually accomplish.  You are a woman and and a sexual being in addition to being a great Mom and worker.  

Use your parents wisely not just for the "help" they provide with the kids but with the freedom they offer you.  There are those on this board that would kill for that kind of "help".
by timless   781 Posts
Posted on 11/5/2009 10:23 AM
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They are overstepping their bounds- not ONLY by telling you you need to have sex! (which is a little funny ! btw) but all the other things they are doing? Have you sat them down and said This is MY house! I run it as I want to! Leave my things alone? PLEASE!?!?
I know they are a great help to you- and we all could use the help! But they are overstepping the boundary line!
BTW- Don't be afraid to date! Who knows!? Maybe the man to love you as you deserve is waiting right around the corner!
You won't have to shuffle things around too much- just a night out every now and then and someone to talk to ? That is something we all need! If you read spaz's little blog- don't be afraid! Sometimes you need that courage to make that step!
I am still laughing about your need to have sex! ? BOB? Where are you? rofl!
by mtnvly   3539 Posts
Posted on 11/5/2009 10:08 AM
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Parents can sometimes have the best of intentions but not always the appropriate ones. It us up to you to set up the boundaries. My sister was separated from her husband. He finished his PHD & had to return to Venezuela to work for the gov't. for 2 years. They decided that my sister would stay with my mom. They had a young daughter. That lasted approximately 6 months. My mother a meddling and nosey woman got into huge fights with my sister. Sister was grateful for the help but the meddling and overstepping boundaries was too much for her to deal with. She moved out & never looked back. Is it worth the help?

How old are the kids? She did it with a small baby. Can you do without your parents?

Now regarding the dating. I totally understand you. When I started out I wanted to date every other weekend, when the kids were gone. Perfect no? I like to be in bed by 9 reading. Once a week I had a tango class that lasted till 10PM. If I rushed I could be home by 10:30PM and in bed.

Something happened along the way...I met an amazing man.  I have 3....3 kids. 16, 7 & 5 yr old. I find myself being pulled in different directions and my boyfriend is a BIG help. He drops off my 16 yr old & her friend at the soccer field while I run to the boys activities. He sits with me at the kids soccer games rain or shine. We have attended my daughter's orchestra concert together. Would her own dad have done that...nope. I come home and dinner is usually fixed.  How could I NOT let him in my life? What do I offer him?  

Not sure. He says I am a good woman.  I care about him. I heat up the kettle for his tea. I pick up his favorite cereal. Little things. I fuss about the sheets and soft towels. There are days when I don't feel like I deserve him....I know sad....I have never been with such a loving man. 

Get yourself out there Paula and find YOUR amazing man :-)

Abrazos.
by vlady   2119 Posts
Posted on 11/5/2009 9:59 AM
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I would freak out if someone moved my stuff too! Wait.. they do. My kids are 17, 19 & 20... I forgot!! Gee, that drives me nuts!!! I took some classes one time and the thing that I remembered from them were that when things change you have to move around in the boat. Or the boat get's off centered or will heave other to one side or the other. It sounds as if everyone is in the boat but you are still in the seat as a young daughter of your parents. Not as an adult daughter. I mean, I know they help you out but they should also show you some respect. First thing.. no yelling back at them. That just makes you seem like a 16 year old in their eyes. You have to show that you are a grown woman who is taking care of her business. I know it is easy to get into the yelling stuff, I have done it with family members in the past. You take care of 2 kids, you work 2 jobs.. and you run a household and you have done all this for 5 years!! I am really impressed!! I think you deserve some respect. And not that you need a man but maybe you might want to be a bit more well-rounded and have some fun. Not every guy out there is out to get you. There might be someone who just wants to spend time with a fun person!
by hunted1   14 Posts
Posted on 11/5/2009 9:14 AM
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W. O. W.  Well, at least he wasn't quite as blunt as my parents were...my mom would have come right out and said, "You're bitchy...you need to get laid."  At least you got a somewhat tactful response, and in the heat of an argument no less.

However, that said, yes, you are going to have to sit down and evaluate whether or not their help is worth the many boundary crossings they seem to be doing.  I believe that all children should respect their parents...but there comes a time when you grew up and mother and father doesn't always know best anymore, and they need to start treating you like an adult and let them make their own choices and decisions and respect them too.

The only thing I can recommend is pick a time when all are calm and explain that to them.  Set the boundaries and rules.  Express appreciation for the things they do for you, but tell them the things they do that are not appropriate.  Your house, your rules.  Your kids, your rules.  Maybe relate it to them in this way... "When you were raising me, would you have tolerated anyone coming into your home and telling you how to raise your kids, feeding them what they wished, throwing out what you had in the fridge? How would it make you feel if someone had done that to you?"  Maybe have some mood music in the background...like Billy Joel's "My Life?" ;)

I know the temptation is there to avail yourself to the free daycare and help that your parents are providing...but you have to decide if the price for that free daycare and help is too high if they won't respect your boundaries.  They are writing off your fights as stress and are not taking you seriously.  That's why I recommend talking to them at a calm moment...not angry, not yelling, not screaming.  Maybe they'll take you more seriously then.  There's a reason we don't live with our parents forever... I wish you luck with all this Paula...I know it isn't always easy to take a stand with the people you love so dearly.
by BlueB   2982 Posts
Posted on 11/5/2009 6:32 AM
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