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Another night...another conversation..in the end the same outcome 

My STBX called the other night when he was drunk..he wanted to come over.  I said no its not a good idea, you will regret it tomorrow.  I will regret it tomorrow.  He said I am coming over anyway.  So he did.  I knew he was drunk and for that reason I am soo uncertain about the things that were discussed.  He leaned on me while we sat on the couch and asked what happened to us, how did this happen.  I replied ...lack of communication.  He told me I will always be a part of his heart and that he loved me soo much and doesn't know why this has happened.  He said he knows he has been horrible to me, that he has hurt me, that he has a big part in all of it and that he was sorry for hurting me.  He told me how its odd to kiss other people and asked if it was hard for me to.  He told me how no one kisses like me and he doesn't think he could be intimate with anyone else right now.  I told him that I didn't believe that...I believe he has been intimate with the OW (who he has broken off with...already!!!)  He said he cant picture me being intimate with anyone the way I was with him.  Of course we kissed..I know it was not a smart move and am glad that it didn't go further.  It couldn't  :)

 

 Dating seems to come easy to him...he is already dating someone new..even took her to a restaurant we once loved and that I had his birthday dinner at last year.  That hurt like hell...but in all honesty- it made me angry.  Is anything sacred in the 11 years we spent together?  There are a few hundred restaurants in the tri-state area for god sake!  He knew there was a good chance people would see him there..everyone we know goes there and we are friends with the owner.

 

It occurred to me the next day that my STBX wants to move on but doesn't want me to move on.  Thats not really fair.  It is strange that the 2 of us still feel for each other, still love kissing one another, can still make passionate love and still consider the other their best friend BUT only one of us is willing to make it work.  Only one of us is willing to leave the past in the past to start a new future.  However, I am tired of waiting for him to have a revelation...while he dates these women and goes clubbing every week and sabotages what we once had.  I NEED him to sign the divorce papers that he has had in his hands for three weeks now and let me go...I deserve at least that at the end of the worst 16 months of my life...

by wow9cats  394 Posts 

Posted on 11/1/2009 2:06 PM
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I'm struggling with a similar situation.  My husband is cheating on me.  He says he still loves me, doesn't want to leave me, but won't give up the OW.  I don't think he really wants me anymore.  He's just stringing me along because he can't stand the thought of me with someone else.  He's always been the jealous type. 

Its time for me to gather up my backbone and self respect and kick him to the curb.  You're already one step ahead of me hon.  :) Pray for us both. 

PS: Nope.  No place is sacred.  Mine took the OW to all our special places, including the place we went on our honeymoon. 
by flyingfree   55 Posts
Posted on 11/2/2009 5:04 PM
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I know it wasn't right of him to do what he did, and unfair to keep putting me in that position as well as hurting me.  I also know its my job to say no and mean it.  I am working on it!  :)
by wow9cats   394 Posts
Posted on 11/2/2009 3:49 PM
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Tell him what I've told ex's that try to get intimate "for old time sakes".  I say "I give to the needy, not the greedy", haha. 

Since he's already admitted how horrible he was to you, etc. tell him that he should at the very least sign the papers so that you can have some sort of closure instead of legally having a husband who's running around kissing/being intimate with other women.
by lifeinpurgatory   1830 Posts
Posted on 11/2/2009 10:08 AM
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None of that denial is good for you.  You can't begin anew when you aren't letting him go.  You can't control his behavior, but you can control yours.  It isn't up to him to let you go...  it's up to you to let go of him. 

He isn't the one hanging on...   he is just doing what he wants to do  and you are going along with it.  He has nothing to lose...   he can come and go as he pleases and still find love and compassion with you anytime he needs it. 

That only hurts you over and over again as you find out more and more disappointing news.

PLEASE (yes, I am begging) buy and read the book Co-dependent No More by Melody Beattie.  It is your first tool to break the pattern that has caused your relationship to end so painfully and to keep you from repeating the pattern in your next relationship. 

If you want to chat, I am here.

Best -
Lisa
by Lisa Cannon   
Posted on 11/1/2009 11:54 PM
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HI Wow9Cats -

" He told me how its odd to kiss other people and asked if it was hard for me to. He told me how no one kisses like me and he doesn't think he could be intimate with anyone else right now..... It is strange that the 2 of us still feel for each other, still love kissing one another, can still make passionate love and still consider the other their best friend."

Maybe I am not getting the story right, but I can't imagine being best friends (or for that matter friends at all) with someone who was manipulating me so expertly. Someone who knew that I was devestated by their behavior and felt no need to change that behavior in any way. Someone who would call me up, come to my home and play with my emotions as if I were a toy. That's not love. Love is selfless, not selfish... love gives before it takes... love puts the other party first before oneself. KIsses may feel good, but they aren't love. You can get that from a dog. Yes, you love, but don't allow yourself to think that he loves, regardless of what he says. Actions say it all.
 
I don't think the signing of the paperwork is going to be the thing that stops this behavior. I think it will continue as long as you continue to allow it.

You had a good beginning when you said no during the phone call. Unfortunately you have taught him that no doesn't really mean no, it means try harder. So, he did what you taught him to... tried harder and got what he wanted... time with you... kisses... love... empathy... he left feeling better... and how did you feel... better?

Why answer the door? Why let him in? All he does is give you false hope. Why continue to enable this type of behavior? What are you getting out of it? All it does is feed your denial and allow you to continue to believe maybe it isn't really over... maybe he really does still love me... maybe there is hope...

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by Lisa Cannon   
Posted on 11/1/2009 11:45 PM
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Hugs to you.  It does seem to be odd that those people who cheat, especially, seem to want to be able to move on and have fun, but don't think it's ok for their spouse.  Mine hid his cheating for years because, I guess, I wanted the security I brought and represented, but didn't want to have to fill any of my needs.  He's in a great big mess now, of his own making, but still trying to blame me, even though he's been out of the house, town, and state for months, and the divorce has been final for months, as well.  He's still trying to 'play' me. 

I don't know how you can get your ex to sign the papers, but for your sake, it needs to happen.  You deserve to move on, and you can't while he plays you yet again.  Maybe your attorney can advise you on this.

Best of luck and hugs and positive thoughts for you. 
by stCheshirecat   302 Posts
Posted on 11/1/2009 5:05 PM
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Hugs
by Betrayedforaram   451 Posts
Posted on 11/1/2009 3:43 PM
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